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See, [livejournal.com profile] inklane, here's the thing.

When I made my last post about this issue, I didn't ask you to publicly own up to stalking my journal and ripping me off. I didn't ask you to apologize. I didn't leave bitchy comments on your journal. I don't think I was particularly nasty or unreasonable.

I just asked you to do one thing:

STOP.

Is that so hard?

Apparently!



In the previous installment of this increasingly stupid story, [livejournal.com profile] shelly505 was stalking my journal like a creeper, copypasting from my LJ and ripping me off in various ways, and I called her out with screencaps and asked her to quit it.

About 24 hours after I posted caps of all the crap she was pulling, she deleted her LJ, her graphics journal, her twitter, and supposedly her YouTube account (the last I didn't even know existed until someone mentioned it later). She made no other public response to my post that I'm aware of.

After she deleted her LJ, someone edited the interests list on her community, [livejournal.com profile] clois_daily, to remove the ones that were copypasted from my own comm.

On Journalfen's wank_report I saw after the fact, someone posted a link where other Lois fans claimed that Chloe fans ran [livejournal.com profile] shelly505 off LJ. Supposedly the entire Chloe mafia came up with a plot under f-lock to force her to delete her journal, just because [livejournal.com profile] clois_daily was *~totally absolutely completely coincidentally~* vaguely similar to some unnamed Chloe community. (Yet nobody referred to my journal or comm by name, or linked my crazy, delusional post with all the screencaps and dates showing how it was about more than just one isolated instance of copying. Huh!)

Except, ngl, I was refreshing [livejournal.com profile] shelly505's journal like crazy from about five minutes after I made my post. I wanted to see if she took down the stuff she copied, or apologized (admittedly unlikely), or flounced, or whatever, and so was basically at the computer with popcorn hitting refresh until she bahleeted.

Yet I didn't see anyone commenting on her most recent public posts at all. I guess someone could have been doing it on older posts, or I missed it... But still, where are the caps of all this harassment from the Chloe mafia, with their nefarious plans to throw her off the internets? Because it sure wasn't me, and it wasn't my flist, as I asked them in advance to not take this outside my journal publicly.

I saw two people (who weren't on my flist) call her out on twitter as a plagiarizing bitch. Yeah, not polite, but...less than 400 characters of "harassment" was enough to send her fleeing the internets? Really?

Anyway.

I didn't push the issue, because she had deleted her journal, and why stir up shit if it was over anyway. Right? Right!

Except I wouldn't be making this post if it was actually over.






On October 27th, the former [livejournal.com profile] shelly505 created the account [livejournal.com profile] inklane. Since she went right back to modding [livejournal.com profile] clois_daily and was still using the same default icon as before, I didn't have to be much of a plucky girl detective to notice she was still around. She put up a public post labeling her new journal as friends-only, saying it was "to stop trolling."

Yes, we get it. You're the victim here. Wah.





But, hey, her new journal was no longer creepily copypasting from my interests or keywords anymore. If she was starting over fresh, cool.

But...

I guess she realized now she could carry on ripping off my posts under friendslock in her new journal. Then she could keep doing what she was doing, and I would never be the wiser.

Except you still fail, [livejournal.com profile] inklane.






For starters, in the last month she's started to post picspams publicly, so we still have more of the same at [livejournal.com profile] fandom_picspams...





But her SV posts remain locked. How strange. I wonder why?

Rather hilariously, she posted one SV picspam publicly to [livejournal.com profile] fandom_picspams last month, and I coincidentally posted one of my own like five minutes after hers, so we had our posts back-to-back looking humorously identical next to each other on the comm. She deleted her post immediately. And no, I don't have caps, more's the pity; I was on a crappy connection at the time and she deleted too quickly for me to get to it.

But anyway, you can still see some of her picspam material in her scrapbook, which has remained public. This one's my favorite:





I changed my picspam style a bit after she started copying me last time, and since the previous post, she began copying that too. I am aware this is not the end of the world, but seriously CAN YOU DIAL BACK THE CREEPINESS JUST A SKOSH?

And for everyone's who's like, "well there are only so many ways to picspam an episode," please go browse through [livejournal.com profile] fandom_picspams and find someone else whose posts look so slavishly identical to mine. I'll wait.

Then we get to her comm banner...





And of course, the icons she's uploaded over the past few months to the new journal. She stopped the creepy keyword copypasting, but decided to go for the gold on creepiness in copying more of my icons instead:





And this is obviously just the stuff posted publicly since the last kerfluffle; who knows what could be going on under f-lock.

Seriously?

It's freaking manips and picspams and icons. Not just that, but manips and picspams and icons from freaking Smallville, a show that only has two collective brain cells to rub together on a good day.

Obviously these things are not srs bzness. Kind of the polar opposite of srs bzness, actually. But none of those things are hard to do yourself without obnoxiously copying off someone else either, as the rest of Livejournal seems to survive without obsessively watching my journal and graphics posts to replicate my stuff.

Honestly, it's now at the point where I'm less pissed off at the shameless copying of non-srs-bzness things than I am just marveling at how stupid you're being if you're actually attempting to hide it (as opposed to this being a *~social experiment~*).

I mean...you got caught copying, deleted your accounts to cover your tracks, apparently told your friends you deleted because Chloe fans were being mean girls to you, and then made a whole new journal to keep on trucking, doing exactly what you were before?

People who aren't even on my flist have PM'ed me asking if I'm aware of your new journal and that you've continued to rip me off, so you're not exactly being covert here. Not to mention how you still continue to post in [livejournal.com profile] fandom_picspams even now with picspams that look like mine. I'm really still baffled as to whether you think I'm dumb enough not to notice you just because you changed journals, or if you're doing this expressly to get my blood pressure up.

You obviously are totally aware that what you're doing is not cool, because your picspam posts for other fandoms are public, while you keep just your SV ones locked (plus bahleeting the one public SV post that looked just like mine last month).

And you can hardly say that you're not still checking my journals, because you've continued to keep icons I've recently posted uploaded to your userpics credited to both this LJ and [livejournal.com profile] yumeiro.

And you clearly saw my first post calling you out where I said I was pissed off at what you were doing, so you no longer have a leg to stand on with any possible *~but omg I love your stuff so much and imitation is just a form of flattery~* excuses that might have flown before, if you'd apologized back then.

So I almost feel like it has to be trolling, except you're still making vague efforts to hide what you're doing, and I just cannot figure out what you're after.

I'd obviously (still!) appreciate it if you quit doing this, though considering now you've been steadily ripping me off for almost half a year now, and most people probably would have cut their losses after the first journal deletion, I'm not holding my breath. But hey, it would be nice, as every time I post something publicly to my journal now, I have to ask myself if it's something I'm willing to see you shamelessly rip off. It's not srs bzness, no, but it is not exactly making fandom the fun stress-reliever it should be, either.

I'm posting this publicly, the same way I did before, because I still think you're watching my journal. I'm doing it so I'm continuing to keep everything out in the open.

You know, as opposed to being a mean, mean Chloe fan who plots under f-lock against you and trolls your journal. I know you've had a tough time through this whole ordeal, being victimized the way you have. :(




And if this somehow all ends up on f_w, I...probably totally deserve it for posting over what is (this time) essentially mostly icon wank. So, if it happens, I just hope whoever does the report is funny, as I don't need any more recipes right now.

P.S. While egostroking from others did not go entirely unappreciated last time, I'm really not posting this so that everyone I know (and some I don't) in SV fandom feels pressured to tell me how *~awesome and original~* I am in the comments. I would rather have [livejournal.com profile] inklane stop being a creeper and leave me in peace than get attention, srsly.

If you want to weigh in, cool, but no pressure here to tell me how much you love and adore me for my amazing 100x100 pixel *~ARTISTIC CREATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SULLIED HERE~*.

Date: 2010-02-19 03:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apeygirl.livejournal.com
Thank you for your post. I am so glad someone on the Clois side of the fandom is finally calling her out, not only for being a creeper, but for playing victim about it. I'm glad more people will know. I hope people don't know, rather than know and don't care.

Anyway, this girl's behavior has been off from way back. Back when she was Shelly, she also spread around that Chlarkers were giving Cloisers viruses or some crap and tried to bring Craig into it as well. It made it onto fandom wank, then she cried victim on that. This girl doesn't have a genuine bone in her body.

Date: 2010-02-19 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyonyo.livejournal.com
I don't think the virus thing made it onto f_w. The f_w kerfluffle she was involved in was the icon wank about Chloe fans being like the KKK.

She was one of the people spreading the story that Chloe fans infiltrated a Cloiser chat and gave everyone in it a virus, and then she posted on her LJ that Craig had confirmed the Chloe mafia's guilt in the incident. Someone somewhere has caps of him commenting in her journal telling her he had said nothing of the kind, and she backpedaled, claimed she'd just heard someone else saying it and just repeated what she'd been told, and then deleted both Craig's comment and her reply.

People reported that just on wank_report, I think, but she started posting publicly claiming to be a minor (supposedly this isn't true, but I don't know one way or the other) because f_w won't make posts about anyone who's under 18. So she knew she was being super wanky, but claimed she was underage so she wouldn't get on Fandom Wank.

Date: 2010-02-19 04:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apeygirl.livejournal.com
My bad. I think I'm associating the virus thing with f_w because I found out about it through comments on f_w.

Date: 2010-02-19 05:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
Dear god, is there no length that she won't go to?

Date: 2010-02-19 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
As I've said to a few other's, you're more than welcome. I was happy to do this, because if she could treat me like that so easily then I had to know that there was some merit and truth to how she was truly treating the Chlarker's/Chloisers which is just ridiculous and unecessary. It gives the sane and decent Clark/Lois fans who actually like Chloe as an individual character of her own independence, a really bad name and I don't like that one bit at all.

Nor did I like the fact that she made it seem as if I'd made her feel uncomfortable to express her opinion in her journal, then turned around and talked trash about me behind my back on her public Twitter where she knew that I would see it and get mad about it. Idiot, like I've said before. lol. She's gonna be schooled hard, I've put out feelers to different people and sent out various pm's tonight. I've opened that post I linked to publicly and if people help me re-post the link and the links to here, maybe we'll make sure it doesn't happen again and people know what a creeper she really is.

Not all Clark/Lois fans are the anti-Christ, some of us are actually sane people who do have a genuine bone in our bodies. lol.

I'm glad that I wasn't around when she was spreading the crap about the viruses that the Chlarker's supposedly gave to the Cloisers and trying to bring Craig into it, gosh that was stupid on her part. You mind sharing the link to that with me, if it's still available. I'd like to edit it into my post and all that, just so that it shows conformity. lol.

Date: 2010-02-19 04:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apeygirl.livejournal.com
I know there are plenty of nice, sane cloisers. Some even read my fic. I just wish the ones that weren't sane weren't so ever-present. I guess you can't be on the web 24/7 and not go a little nuts. lol.

I know someone capped some of the virus kerfluffle, but I don't remember who. Nyonyo might.

Date: 2010-02-19 04:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
Oh good, that's nice to know. Like I said, we're not all evil and I'm sure that being online a monotonous amount of time would make you a bit batty. lol. Believe me, I wish those Clois fans who were giving us a bad name in fandom, really would go away themselves. Maybe I can work on the Shelly situation, hopefully. At the very least, warn people.

Hmm, I might have to see if I can do some digging or ask another one of my friends, if they might know where some screencaps are. That's quite interesting, I guess I must've missed that one.

Date: 2010-02-19 05:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyonyo.livejournal.com
I wasn't around either at the time but I got this from a friend who was: cap of Craig's comment. This is the only cap I've seen of it. I have no idea if she was lying here too since I wasn't involved, but I don't have any reason to trust her, and she's playing the victim in that comment as well.

Date: 2010-02-19 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
Ugh, that just doesn't surprise me in the least at all. Thanks, for sharing the cap with me and for getting it. I'm definitely going to edit my post to include it, because I think they need to know about that as well.

Also, I wanted to tell you that there were three people from the Clark/Lois camp who've sent me pm's on livejournal telling me that they felt bad for my situation and what had happened with her, that it should have never happened, and this should have never happened to you. :)

Date: 2010-02-19 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyonyo.livejournal.com
That makes me really happy to hear since I've wondered for a long time if Clark/Lois fans knew what she was doing and just didn't care. :) Thank you! Your honorary mafia membership card and secret decoder ring are in the mail, lol.

Date: 2010-02-19 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
Yeah, I've got some positive results and I've gotten one negative one, but I'm not so much worried about the later as I am about making sure that the Clark/Lois fans know what's up. If I lose a few friends because of them, then they were really never my friends to begin with.

Thought you might want to know, she made her Twitter account private. I went to check and see if she had said anything else about me and I couldn't see anything, because it's no longer public. I'm not surprised at all, though I did make a cap of it and edited into my original post.

rotfl. Yay, for having an affiliation with the Chloe Mafia. I will put that decoder ring and membership card to good use. ;)

Date: 2010-02-19 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyonyo.livejournal.com
It's usually locked most of the time; it has been locked ever since she deleted her old public account that ripped off my layout and made the inklane one. She just unlocks it periodically when DI tries to make #Smallville trend on twitter, since your tweets don't count towards trending if you lock them. So it may not necessarily be because of the dramaz, even if it is likely.

Date: 2010-02-19 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
You may be right about that, but given that she's talked about me while she still had me friended on her Twitter account, it makes me wonder if she's not still doing it now most especially with the recent post that I've made. Kinda wish I had a spy that would let me know, lol. But, the friends that I do have in my back pocket - I don't necessarily want to drag them into the drama and make them feel obligated to get invovled. Most of them have been extremely amazing and have been on my side, except for the one.

Date: 2010-02-19 06:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyonyo.livejournal.com
I wouldn't stress too much about it. She never said a word publicly about what she did to me and totally ignored this post aside from locking down her LJ and scrapbook, so I doubt she's ranting about you under lock and key. If she brings attention to you, anyone who gets curious and looks at your journal will find out exactly what she did, which she doesn't appear to want.

Date: 2010-02-19 06:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
You're right about that, I'll just kinda take a deep breath and let it go. I guess the thing that frustrates me, is I feel like our mutual friends are gonna be put in the middle of this, and I hate for them to have to feel like they need to choose. Most of them have been amazingly supportive of me, except for the one.

So, I'm betting that you're probably right and if I happen to see anything or she happens to unlock anything at some point, I'll definitely let you guys know. Though I doubt that anything will come my way. lol.

Date: 2010-02-19 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] go-clo.livejournal.com
Seriously, thank you so much for being one of the awesome Cloisers and putting the word out there about this! I know that not all Cloisers are crazy, I have a few Cloisers on my flist myself! it's just sad that all the crazy ones seem to outweigh the sane ones! It's not fair to anyone, especially fans of Clois! People need to know about this girl, they need to know that she isn't just some little victim being victimized by Chlarkers! She is even pissing off her own side now, that says a lot about her!

I'll def be linking this post in my journal! If I lose the few Clois fans I have on my flist, oh well! As you said, they were never really my friends to begin with if they agree with this! And any friend that you may lose over this, know that we will be there to replace them! ;)

Date: 2010-02-19 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
You guys are more than welcome, I just felt like it needed to be brough to the Clark/Lois camp's attention, what this girl was doing, how she was acting, and who she was doing it or well - actually targetting.

I was just disgusted and too fed up with her, spending all of her time trying to convince my side of the fandom camp that the Chlarker's/Chloiser's and Chloe fans were of teh evil when I knew that it wasn't true in the least. I also knew that there wasn't one Chloe fan at all who had trolled her journal, while I still had her friend nor visited her Twitter except to tell her to stop plagerizing - like I said, was something I would have told her as well.

So, it's about time people see her for who she truly is - an instigator rather than a victim. She picked the wrong Clois fan to piss off this time, ya know. Because, I'm not one bit afraid to make a statement or go toe to toe with her ridiculous ass. And, believe me I've got my resources and my amunition to back me up, too.

I mean, the truth is all camps in this crazy fandom has been guilty of the mudslinging from time to time and it really doesn't matter who started it. But, there's a fine line between being frustrated and speaking out about it, and then doing what [livejournal.com profile] inklane has done and specifically targeted the Chloiser's/Chlarker's and tried to make them all look evil.


Some of my good and closest friends are Chloe/Chlark/Chlois and I wouldn't trade them for the world at all. Plus, I've never hated Chloe at all. Now, I will say that I haven't been happy with the way that SV and the writer's have treated her character over the last two seasons and there's been a few things she's done that I didn't necessarily like, but that could be with any character and it certainly doesn't mean that I hate her. lol.

It's good to know that you guys know that not all of us Clois fans are crazies like this. So far, I have really appreciated the overwhelming support that I've gotten from the Chloe/Chlark/Chlois camp and I'd like to say thank you for that. I've also come out of this with a couple new friends as well, which is kinda awesome since I need more Chloe fans on my flist.

Thank you, for linking to my post in your journal and sharing it with your fellow Clois friends/fans. I hope that you won't lose them as a friend either and that they'll see you're just trying to do what I'm trying to do, which is warn them about this girl and how crazy she is. If she can do this to me and do this to your camp in the fandom, then she can do this to anyone and it needs to be stopped and she needs to be put in her place.

If you lose them as friends, then you definitely have a Clois friend in me. I wouldn't mind having you on my flist, in fact I think you're pretty nice. *g* Thank you, for saying that you guys would be there to replace them. I definitely appreciate it, makes me feel better. :)

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