every breath you taaaake, every move you maaaaaake

[meimichi]

See, inklane, here's the thing.

When I made my last post about this issue, I didn't ask you to publicly own up to stalking my journal and ripping me off. I didn't ask you to apologize. I didn't leave bitchy comments on your journal. I don't think I was particularly nasty or unreasonable.

I just asked you to do one thing:

STOP.

Is that so hard?

Apparently!



In the previous installment of this increasingly stupid story, shelly505 was stalking my journal like a creeper, copypasting from my LJ and ripping me off in various ways, and I called her out with screencaps and asked her to quit it.

About 24 hours after I posted caps of all the crap she was pulling, she deleted her LJ, her graphics journal, her twitter, and supposedly her YouTube account (the last I didn't even know existed until someone mentioned it later). She made no other public response to my post that I'm aware of.

After she deleted her LJ, someone edited the interests list on her community, clois_daily, to remove the ones that were copypasted from my own comm.

On Journalfen's wank_report I saw after the fact, someone posted a link where other Lois fans claimed that Chloe fans ran shelly505 off LJ. Supposedly the entire Chloe mafia came up with a plot under f-lock to force her to delete her journal, just because clois_daily was *~totally absolutely completely coincidentally~* vaguely similar to some unnamed Chloe community. (Yet nobody referred to my journal or comm by name, or linked my crazy, delusional post with all the screencaps and dates showing how it was about more than just one isolated instance of copying. Huh!)

Except, ngl, I was refreshing shelly505's journal like crazy from about five minutes after I made my post. I wanted to see if she took down the stuff she copied, or apologized (admittedly unlikely), or flounced, or whatever, and so was basically at the computer with popcorn hitting refresh until she bahleeted.

Yet I didn't see anyone commenting on her most recent public posts at all. I guess someone could have been doing it on older posts, or I missed it... But still, where are the caps of all this harassment from the Chloe mafia, with their nefarious plans to throw her off the internets? Because it sure wasn't me, and it wasn't my flist, as I asked them in advance to not take this outside my journal publicly.

I saw two people (who weren't on my flist) call her out on twitter as a plagiarizing bitch. Yeah, not polite, but...less than 400 characters of "harassment" was enough to send her fleeing the internets? Really?

Anyway.

I didn't push the issue, because she had deleted her journal, and why stir up shit if it was over anyway. Right? Right!

Except I wouldn't be making this post if it was actually over.

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On October 27th, the former shelly505 created the account inklane. Since she went right back to modding clois_daily and was still using the same default icon as before, I didn't have to be much of a plucky girl detective to notice she was still around. She put up a public post labeling her new journal as friends-only, saying it was "to stop trolling."

Yes, we get it. You're the victim here. Wah.





But, hey, her new journal was no longer creepily copypasting from my interests or keywords anymore. If she was starting over fresh, cool.

But...

I guess she realized now she could carry on ripping off my posts under friendslock in her new journal. Then she could keep doing what she was doing, and I would never be the wiser.

Except you still fail, inklane.

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For starters, in the last month she's started to post picspams publicly, so we still have more of the same at fandom_picspams...





But her SV posts remain locked. How strange. I wonder why?

Rather hilariously, she posted one SV picspam publicly to fandom_picspams last month, and I coincidentally posted one of my own like five minutes after hers, so we had our posts back-to-back looking humorously identical next to each other on the comm. She deleted her post immediately. And no, I don't have caps, more's the pity; I was on a crappy connection at the time and she deleted too quickly for me to get to it.

But anyway, you can still see some of her picspam material in her scrapbook, which has remained public. This one's my favorite:





I changed my picspam style a bit after she started copying me last time, and since the previous post, she began copying that too. I am aware this is not the end of the world, but seriously CAN YOU DIAL BACK THE CREEPINESS JUST A SKOSH?

And for everyone's who's like, "well there are only so many ways to picspam an episode," please go browse through fandom_picspams and find someone else whose posts look so slavishly identical to mine. I'll wait.

Then we get to her comm banner...





And of course, the icons she's uploaded over the past few months to the new journal. She stopped the creepy keyword copypasting, but decided to go for the gold on creepiness in copying more of my icons instead:





And this is obviously just the stuff posted publicly since the last kerfluffle; who knows what could be going on under f-lock.

Seriously?

It's freaking manips and picspams and icons. Not just that, but manips and picspams and icons from freaking Smallville, a show that only has two collective brain cells to rub together on a good day.

Obviously these things are not srs bzness. Kind of the polar opposite of srs bzness, actually. But none of those things are hard to do yourself without obnoxiously copying off someone else either, as the rest of Livejournal seems to survive without obsessively watching my journal and graphics posts to replicate my stuff.

Honestly, it's now at the point where I'm less pissed off at the shameless copying of non-srs-bzness things than I am just marveling at how stupid you're being if you're actually attempting to hide it (as opposed to this being a *~social experiment~*).

I mean...you got caught copying, deleted your accounts to cover your tracks, apparently told your friends you deleted because Chloe fans were being mean girls to you, and then made a whole new journal to keep on trucking, doing exactly what you were before?

People who aren't even on my flist have PM'ed me asking if I'm aware of your new journal and that you've continued to rip me off, so you're not exactly being covert here. Not to mention how you still continue to post in fandom_picspams even now with picspams that look like mine. I'm really still baffled as to whether you think I'm dumb enough not to notice you just because you changed journals, or if you're doing this expressly to get my blood pressure up.

You obviously are totally aware that what you're doing is not cool, because your picspam posts for other fandoms are public, while you keep just your SV ones locked (plus bahleeting the one public SV post that looked just like mine last month).

And you can hardly say that you're not still checking my journals, because you've continued to keep icons I've recently posted uploaded to your userpics credited to both this LJ and yumeiro.

And you clearly saw my first post calling you out where I said I was pissed off at what you were doing, so you no longer have a leg to stand on with any possible *~but omg I love your stuff so much and imitation is just a form of flattery~* excuses that might have flown before, if you'd apologized back then.

So I almost feel like it has to be trolling, except you're still making vague efforts to hide what you're doing, and I just cannot figure out what you're after.

I'd obviously (still!) appreciate it if you quit doing this, though considering now you've been steadily ripping me off for almost half a year now, and most people probably would have cut their losses after the first journal deletion, I'm not holding my breath. But hey, it would be nice, as every time I post something publicly to my journal now, I have to ask myself if it's something I'm willing to see you shamelessly rip off. It's not srs bzness, no, but it is not exactly making fandom the fun stress-reliever it should be, either.

I'm posting this publicly, the same way I did before, because I still think you're watching my journal. I'm doing it so I'm continuing to keep everything out in the open.

You know, as opposed to being a mean, mean Chloe fan who plots under f-lock against you and trolls your journal. I know you've had a tough time through this whole ordeal, being victimized the way you have. :(

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And if this somehow all ends up on f_w, I...probably totally deserve it for posting over what is (this time) essentially mostly icon wank. So, if it happens, I just hope whoever does the report is funny, as I don't need any more recipes right now.

P.S. While egostroking from others did not go entirely unappreciated last time, I'm really not posting this so that everyone I know (and some I don't) in SV fandom feels pressured to tell me how *~awesome and original~* I am in the comments. I would rather have inklane stop being a creeper and leave me in peace than get attention, srsly.

If you want to weigh in, cool, but no pressure here to tell me how much you love and adore me for my amazing 100x100 pixel *~ARTISTIC CREATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SULLIED HERE~*.

Comments

[nyonyo.livejournal.com]

Thanks! I hope someone can find the caps so the mystery is solved, but in the grand scheme of things, lying about her age is the thing she did that concerns me the least.

I really have no doubt that she acted like a nice person to everyone on her flist. Because I've interacted with a few multishippers she had friended in the past, and all of them seem like really nice people.

In the past I seriously thought both sides of the shipper war were totally nuts but this whole situation has made me so ridiculously paranoid I cannot even say. I mean, I couldn't even upload an icon to my userpics without asking myself if it's worth the blood pressure spike to see it shamelessly ripped off. CRAZY.

I've been a Chloiser since S3 and I stopped liking Lois a long time ago, but I have no problem with Cloisers or people who like Lois. It's cool if they like Chloe, or even if they hate her. Back in the day before everything got so crazy personal, I thought the debates from fans of each character were what made the fandom most interesting. Clark and Lex fans would debate like crazy over who was really the wronged party in the friendship, and it created interesting discussion, and back then it was okay if you liked one or the other or both. I think the Chloe and Lois debate lost that a while ago and just became about both sides needing to win, and got insanely personal, and it's impacted the fandom for the worse.

And yeah, I totally get the crazy out there: I posted an episode picspam a few months ago focusing on Chloe (because...she's my favorite character) and got a ranty anonymous comment about how dare I exclude caps of Lois from my picspam and refuse to show my flist what a wonderful person she was, and clearly I hadn't spent my time taking and uploading caps of Lois because if I had just included her wonderful scenes, it would show my true colors of how wrong I was to not be a Lois fan. CRAZY. Apparently you're not even allowed to post about Chloe when you're a Chloe fan. O_o

But anyway, thanks for taking the time out to read the post and comment here, it always makes me happy to see some sane people in the fandom. *g*

[nyonyo.livejournal.com]

Well, even now, the Fortress is still colored black, so Brainiac should still be infecting it, and in Echo the Fortress was messing with Clark's head and putting the mindreading power in there. I seriously think this entire year has been Clark brainwashed by the Brainiaced Fortress.

After Clark stopped saying, "IT'S ALL MY FAULT!" this year, I thought that was a sure sign something weird was up; he hasn't expressed guilt over anything all year, and Clark's guilt complex (if sometimes exasperating to watch) was what always made the character tick. I don't think he's gone two episodes the whole series without talking about how GUILTY he feels about something he has no control over, and there's no way he could go thirteen episodes without mentioning it once. And that's not even getting into how out of character his treatment of Chloe has been. So I do think it isn't Clark, except if it isn't and the entire Clois ship this year was just a fakeout, then that's way, way, way more cruel than the years of Chlark/Chlois teasing, to give shippers everything they wanted and have it be a lie.

And yes, I understand exactly what you mean. I can't stand Clark now, but I shipped Chlark for eight seasons so I'm not stopping now after so many years: they have my loyalty, it's been built up forever. *g* And they are still burying the little meta hints they know Chloisers are obsessed with into the show, even now, so I actually still honestly think Chlois is going to happen.

But of course I get why people think Chloisers are delusional and think the show would never go there; I don't blame them. I mean, Clois is all over S9, so I understand why people don't get why Chloisers won't admit defeat already (and after S9, well, most of them have since they stopped watching over Clark's treatment of Chloe). But as long as we're not trolling Cloiser's LJs to harsh their squee over their ship, and they're not trolling Chloiser LJs claiming we promote an agenda of hatred, I don't really see the harm. I mean, if people can't be allowed to post their *~delusional conspiracy theories~* on the internet, then what is the internet FOR? :P

P.S. I just love your picspams and icons, they are so beautiful...

Thank you so much! :)

[nyonyo.livejournal.com]

I don't mind at all, go right ahead! :)

Yup, I think the same thing about Maxwell Lord.

Since I'm pretty open about everything and I am not judgmental or nothing, if that happens, I will congratulate you for getting what you have wanted for all these years. Because to me, it will mean I have shipped Clark Kent and Lois Lane, just not THE Lois Lane. It won't change my feelings, though. :)

Hee, same here. :) I would ship Chloe and Clark no matter what and they'll always be my favorites regardless of how it ends, and I actually was a Chloiser long before I even shipped them at all (I always figured they were endgame but was hoping for a Chloe/Lex hookup during the series; alas, so far I have had nothing but disappointment where SV ships are concerned!).

I feel pretty much sure that S10 is a go, and I was really kind of hoping form the start that this would be the last year. But since they've said SV is negotiating actor contracts, and Allison is the only one whose contract is up this year, she must at least have gone to the table so at this point it just must be a matter of price.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

And yeah, I totally get the crazy out there: I posted an episode picspam a few months ago focusing on Chloe (because...she's my favorite character) and got a ranty anonymous comment about how dare I exclude caps of Lois from my picspam and refuse to show my flist what a wonderful person she was, and clearly I hadn't spent my time taking and uploading caps of Lois because if I had just included her wonderful scenes, it would show my true colors of how wrong I was to not be a Lois fan. CRAZY. Apparently you're not even allowed to post about Chloe when you're a Chloe fan. O_o

Good lord, people are assholes.