every breath you taaaake, every move you maaaaaake

[meimichi]

See, inklane, here's the thing.

When I made my last post about this issue, I didn't ask you to publicly own up to stalking my journal and ripping me off. I didn't ask you to apologize. I didn't leave bitchy comments on your journal. I don't think I was particularly nasty or unreasonable.

I just asked you to do one thing:

STOP.

Is that so hard?

Apparently!



In the previous installment of this increasingly stupid story, shelly505 was stalking my journal like a creeper, copypasting from my LJ and ripping me off in various ways, and I called her out with screencaps and asked her to quit it.

About 24 hours after I posted caps of all the crap she was pulling, she deleted her LJ, her graphics journal, her twitter, and supposedly her YouTube account (the last I didn't even know existed until someone mentioned it later). She made no other public response to my post that I'm aware of.

After she deleted her LJ, someone edited the interests list on her community, clois_daily, to remove the ones that were copypasted from my own comm.

On Journalfen's wank_report I saw after the fact, someone posted a link where other Lois fans claimed that Chloe fans ran shelly505 off LJ. Supposedly the entire Chloe mafia came up with a plot under f-lock to force her to delete her journal, just because clois_daily was *~totally absolutely completely coincidentally~* vaguely similar to some unnamed Chloe community. (Yet nobody referred to my journal or comm by name, or linked my crazy, delusional post with all the screencaps and dates showing how it was about more than just one isolated instance of copying. Huh!)

Except, ngl, I was refreshing shelly505's journal like crazy from about five minutes after I made my post. I wanted to see if she took down the stuff she copied, or apologized (admittedly unlikely), or flounced, or whatever, and so was basically at the computer with popcorn hitting refresh until she bahleeted.

Yet I didn't see anyone commenting on her most recent public posts at all. I guess someone could have been doing it on older posts, or I missed it... But still, where are the caps of all this harassment from the Chloe mafia, with their nefarious plans to throw her off the internets? Because it sure wasn't me, and it wasn't my flist, as I asked them in advance to not take this outside my journal publicly.

I saw two people (who weren't on my flist) call her out on twitter as a plagiarizing bitch. Yeah, not polite, but...less than 400 characters of "harassment" was enough to send her fleeing the internets? Really?

Anyway.

I didn't push the issue, because she had deleted her journal, and why stir up shit if it was over anyway. Right? Right!

Except I wouldn't be making this post if it was actually over.

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On October 27th, the former shelly505 created the account inklane. Since she went right back to modding clois_daily and was still using the same default icon as before, I didn't have to be much of a plucky girl detective to notice she was still around. She put up a public post labeling her new journal as friends-only, saying it was "to stop trolling."

Yes, we get it. You're the victim here. Wah.





But, hey, her new journal was no longer creepily copypasting from my interests or keywords anymore. If she was starting over fresh, cool.

But...

I guess she realized now she could carry on ripping off my posts under friendslock in her new journal. Then she could keep doing what she was doing, and I would never be the wiser.

Except you still fail, inklane.

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For starters, in the last month she's started to post picspams publicly, so we still have more of the same at fandom_picspams...





But her SV posts remain locked. How strange. I wonder why?

Rather hilariously, she posted one SV picspam publicly to fandom_picspams last month, and I coincidentally posted one of my own like five minutes after hers, so we had our posts back-to-back looking humorously identical next to each other on the comm. She deleted her post immediately. And no, I don't have caps, more's the pity; I was on a crappy connection at the time and she deleted too quickly for me to get to it.

But anyway, you can still see some of her picspam material in her scrapbook, which has remained public. This one's my favorite:





I changed my picspam style a bit after she started copying me last time, and since the previous post, she began copying that too. I am aware this is not the end of the world, but seriously CAN YOU DIAL BACK THE CREEPINESS JUST A SKOSH?

And for everyone's who's like, "well there are only so many ways to picspam an episode," please go browse through fandom_picspams and find someone else whose posts look so slavishly identical to mine. I'll wait.

Then we get to her comm banner...





And of course, the icons she's uploaded over the past few months to the new journal. She stopped the creepy keyword copypasting, but decided to go for the gold on creepiness in copying more of my icons instead:





And this is obviously just the stuff posted publicly since the last kerfluffle; who knows what could be going on under f-lock.

Seriously?

It's freaking manips and picspams and icons. Not just that, but manips and picspams and icons from freaking Smallville, a show that only has two collective brain cells to rub together on a good day.

Obviously these things are not srs bzness. Kind of the polar opposite of srs bzness, actually. But none of those things are hard to do yourself without obnoxiously copying off someone else either, as the rest of Livejournal seems to survive without obsessively watching my journal and graphics posts to replicate my stuff.

Honestly, it's now at the point where I'm less pissed off at the shameless copying of non-srs-bzness things than I am just marveling at how stupid you're being if you're actually attempting to hide it (as opposed to this being a *~social experiment~*).

I mean...you got caught copying, deleted your accounts to cover your tracks, apparently told your friends you deleted because Chloe fans were being mean girls to you, and then made a whole new journal to keep on trucking, doing exactly what you were before?

People who aren't even on my flist have PM'ed me asking if I'm aware of your new journal and that you've continued to rip me off, so you're not exactly being covert here. Not to mention how you still continue to post in fandom_picspams even now with picspams that look like mine. I'm really still baffled as to whether you think I'm dumb enough not to notice you just because you changed journals, or if you're doing this expressly to get my blood pressure up.

You obviously are totally aware that what you're doing is not cool, because your picspam posts for other fandoms are public, while you keep just your SV ones locked (plus bahleeting the one public SV post that looked just like mine last month).

And you can hardly say that you're not still checking my journals, because you've continued to keep icons I've recently posted uploaded to your userpics credited to both this LJ and yumeiro.

And you clearly saw my first post calling you out where I said I was pissed off at what you were doing, so you no longer have a leg to stand on with any possible *~but omg I love your stuff so much and imitation is just a form of flattery~* excuses that might have flown before, if you'd apologized back then.

So I almost feel like it has to be trolling, except you're still making vague efforts to hide what you're doing, and I just cannot figure out what you're after.

I'd obviously (still!) appreciate it if you quit doing this, though considering now you've been steadily ripping me off for almost half a year now, and most people probably would have cut their losses after the first journal deletion, I'm not holding my breath. But hey, it would be nice, as every time I post something publicly to my journal now, I have to ask myself if it's something I'm willing to see you shamelessly rip off. It's not srs bzness, no, but it is not exactly making fandom the fun stress-reliever it should be, either.

I'm posting this publicly, the same way I did before, because I still think you're watching my journal. I'm doing it so I'm continuing to keep everything out in the open.

You know, as opposed to being a mean, mean Chloe fan who plots under f-lock against you and trolls your journal. I know you've had a tough time through this whole ordeal, being victimized the way you have. :(

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And if this somehow all ends up on f_w, I...probably totally deserve it for posting over what is (this time) essentially mostly icon wank. So, if it happens, I just hope whoever does the report is funny, as I don't need any more recipes right now.

P.S. While egostroking from others did not go entirely unappreciated last time, I'm really not posting this so that everyone I know (and some I don't) in SV fandom feels pressured to tell me how *~awesome and original~* I am in the comments. I would rather have inklane stop being a creeper and leave me in peace than get attention, srsly.

If you want to weigh in, cool, but no pressure here to tell me how much you love and adore me for my amazing 100x100 pixel *~ARTISTIC CREATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SULLIED HERE~*.

Comments

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

You're welcome, no problem at all. She's managed to piss the wrong damn person off now, since I'm a Clark/Lois fan (have no problem with Chloe, except the way SV has handled her these last two seasons for which I could throttle them for) I am definitely going to let that side of the fandom camp know what's up.

Hold on, give me a minute and I'll un-lock my most recent post so that you can see exactly what she did to me, because it was just disgusting. Maybe you could help pass the word around for anyone else you might know who could possibly have a Clois fan on their flist and not even realize it. All help would be appreciated, because she should NOT be allowed to get way with this crap.

Wherein the evidence shows just how tacky one indivudal can be. (http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/638517.html) The post has been made public now and you can see.

I hate that the tension runs high between the Chloe and Lois camps, it's like why can't you like both? In this fandom it's either you like one or you like the other, I like them both for very different reasons. I wish I could get back to you with what else she has said, but she's de-friended me now too over this mess.

I just wanted you to know there's at least one sane Clark/Lois and Lois fangirl out there. ;)

[excelaunt.livejournal.com]

I visited your journal to read the post you opened on this issue, I hope you don't mind, but I marvel at your brave heart. I'm glad to read that many in your flist are supporting you and wanted to express the same sentiment. I just thought it might be better to do it here.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

Thank you, I really do appreciate that a lot. I'm just tired of some Clark/Lois fans making it seem like "all of us" are rabid and crazy, as that particular ep was this season. lol. I just couldn't believe that she had done that to me, but then my friend gave me the links to these two posts and well my eyes were seriously opened wide. So, I would appreciate any help I could get passing the link to my post along, to help open other's eyes about her and to warn fandom and make sure Clark/Lois fans know that she's out there being crazy and giving us a bad name.

Once again, thank you for your support, as I really do appreciate. :)

[excelaunt.livejournal.com]

No problem, you're a beautiful person to be as graceful as you are to put everyday decency first.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

Thank you, for saying that. *g* I'm not saying I've not done the stupid on occassion, but there's a big difference between this and just making a mistake that you learn a lesson from. I just want fandom to know we can be better than this and we should be, and to warn them against crazies like her.

[excelaunt.livejournal.com]

Well, you got to draw the line somewhere. When the opinion cuts across the show and into one's own person, that's where it should stop. I posted something on my Chlark filter to share with my flist. I hope they don't mind.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

Thank you, for doing that for me. I hope that they don't mind either and that they're not offended by it, since it is from the Clark/Lois side of fandom. I really do like both characters, Chloe and Lois for various different reasons. I see no reason, why people should be able to do that and why all camps in fandom can't get along and co-exist while agreeing to disagree. I mean, it's only the right and mature thing to do.

People are just idiots these days.

[apeygirl.livejournal.com]

Thank you for your post. I am so glad someone on the Clois side of the fandom is finally calling her out, not only for being a creeper, but for playing victim about it. I'm glad more people will know. I hope people don't know, rather than know and don't care.

Anyway, this girl's behavior has been off from way back. Back when she was Shelly, she also spread around that Chlarkers were giving Cloisers viruses or some crap and tried to bring Craig into it as well. It made it onto fandom wank, then she cried victim on that. This girl doesn't have a genuine bone in her body.

[nyonyo.livejournal.com]

I don't think the virus thing made it onto f_w. The f_w kerfluffle she was involved in was the icon wank about Chloe fans being like the KKK.

She was one of the people spreading the story that Chloe fans infiltrated a Cloiser chat and gave everyone in it a virus, and then she posted on her LJ that Craig had confirmed the Chloe mafia's guilt in the incident. Someone somewhere has caps of him commenting in her journal telling her he had said nothing of the kind, and she backpedaled, claimed she'd just heard someone else saying it and just repeated what she'd been told, and then deleted both Craig's comment and her reply.

People reported that just on wank_report, I think, but she started posting publicly claiming to be a minor (supposedly this isn't true, but I don't know one way or the other) because f_w won't make posts about anyone who's under 18. So she knew she was being super wanky, but claimed she was underage so she wouldn't get on Fandom Wank.

[apeygirl.livejournal.com]

My bad. I think I'm associating the virus thing with f_w because I found out about it through comments on f_w.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

Dear god, is there no length that she won't go to?

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

As I've said to a few other's, you're more than welcome. I was happy to do this, because if she could treat me like that so easily then I had to know that there was some merit and truth to how she was truly treating the Chlarker's/Chloisers which is just ridiculous and unecessary. It gives the sane and decent Clark/Lois fans who actually like Chloe as an individual character of her own independence, a really bad name and I don't like that one bit at all.

Nor did I like the fact that she made it seem as if I'd made her feel uncomfortable to express her opinion in her journal, then turned around and talked trash about me behind my back on her public Twitter where she knew that I would see it and get mad about it. Idiot, like I've said before. lol. She's gonna be schooled hard, I've put out feelers to different people and sent out various pm's tonight. I've opened that post I linked to publicly and if people help me re-post the link and the links to here, maybe we'll make sure it doesn't happen again and people know what a creeper she really is.

Not all Clark/Lois fans are the anti-Christ, some of us are actually sane people who do have a genuine bone in our bodies. lol.

I'm glad that I wasn't around when she was spreading the crap about the viruses that the Chlarker's supposedly gave to the Cloisers and trying to bring Craig into it, gosh that was stupid on her part. You mind sharing the link to that with me, if it's still available. I'd like to edit it into my post and all that, just so that it shows conformity. lol.

[apeygirl.livejournal.com]

I know there are plenty of nice, sane cloisers. Some even read my fic. I just wish the ones that weren't sane weren't so ever-present. I guess you can't be on the web 24/7 and not go a little nuts. lol.

I know someone capped some of the virus kerfluffle, but I don't remember who. Nyonyo might.

[nyonyo.livejournal.com]

Well, my flist is pretty much the Chloe mafia, lol. I'm sure everyone in the *~mafia family~* will be hearing about this, but the whole Chloe mafia already knows what she's like, and talked about it when I made my original post. And there's not much overlap between the camps, since Clark/Lois fans didn't seem to know about what really happened.

Yeah, I saw some of that on her twitter the other day and thought it was less than classy, I just didn't know who she was talking about. Sorry you had to deal with it.

Nah, it's cool. Since most people on her flist clearly don't know what she's pulling, I don't really care that much about what she says under f-lock. I know whatever she's said to people about this issue is a story painting her as the victim, since I've seen other Lois fans using her journal deletion as an example of the constant abuse the Chloe mafia unleashes on people. :P

And yeah, I second what excelaunt said. Thanks a lot for bringing attention to it since it's kind of rare for Chloe or Lois fans deep into this fandom to step across the aisle. :) It's really appreciated.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

I figured that your f-list was pretty much Chloe-centric, but sometimes there are people on our f-list who like both characters. It's pretty much a rare thing these days, but you never know it could happen. Haha, I asked mojotastic the other night if I could join the mafia as an honorary member and she said, sure. lolz. So, I'm totally on your side in all of this craziness.

I wanted to make it a point to make sure the Clark/Lois fans who don't already know her or have been introduced to her, knows who she is, what she's done, the kind of crap that she's willing to pull, and the kind of person she is as far as fandom goes. That's pretty much important, I don't care if she talks about me all day long everyday for the rest of her life. All I care about, is making sure that people know her for the real person she is...an idiot plan and simple making problems in fandom where there really shouldnn't be.

It's okay, better me than someone else because I fear that whoever that might have been, wouldn't have the guts to do what I'm doing and call her out for the hypocrite lying two-faced person she really is.

No, they really don't. I'm almost tempted to go look at her f-list and see how many mutual friends we have and then just conviently pm them a link to my journal post from today. lol. And, maybe the other Clark/Lois fans that she has friended as well just to see what they have to say and so that they can make an informed opinion of her. It's really necessary, after what she's pulled.

I hate people who bring an issue like this on themselves and then they turn around and cry wolf later, when the Chloe side of fandom has done nothing at all hateful towards her and she's the one who's done the damage. Ugh, I hope you know that when I saw other fellow Clois fans using that as an example to villify the Chloe fans, it really did enrage. I don't play that kind of game, it's ridiculous and childish.

You're more than welcome, I don't mind doing it at all. That idiot tango'ed with the wrong Clois fan. She's really pissed me off, as a fan of both Lois and Chloe, I can say whatever I want about her and be in the right to defend myself from the backlash should it happen. You're more than welcome. :)

[wwg23.livejournal.com]

As a member of the Chloe mafia I thank you for clearing the air about this issue. :)

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

You're more than welcome, she's an idiot who pissed me off and she's about to be schooled. I've already been sending out massive pm's to every mutual Clark/Lois fan/friend that we have and then some that we don't, letting them know about this.

[marikology.livejournal.com]

I hate people who bring an issue like this on themselves and then they turn around and cry wolf later, when the Chloe side of fandom has done nothing at all hateful towards her and she's the one who's done the damage

This. THIS. A thousand times this. I appreciate you pointing this out SO MUCH.

I don't mind being called the Chloe Mafia. I don't care if people rag on Chloe. I admit to ragging on C/Lois. You can even rag on Chlarkers, but if you do it in private would be nice. Yes, Chlarkers have spied at DI. Yes Chlarkers have posted rants against Durance or C/Lois. Yes, Chlarkers are bitter and angry. Call people out on things they actually have done.

But what baffles me, are the urban legends certain Cloisers seemingly live to perpetuate, accusing Chlarkers/Chloisers with baseless claims for which they have ABSOLUTELY NO evidence. I'm sure the majority of the Clois community is as sane as you, but Shelly505/Inklane and her friends are a lost cause. They will believe what they want to believe, with absolutely no evidence.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

You are more than welcome, I just feel like it's time that someone set the record straight. In this fandom, especially with how brutal it's become over the years, no camp is innocent in the things that they've done to one another. This crap comes at you from every direction, but I wanted to make sure you guys knew that at least one Clois/Lois fan was sane in the bunch and knew that Shelly (which, is her real name btw) is an idiot with no leg to stand on.

THIS. Is pretty much how I feel. If you're going to call someone out for doing something, you better make sure that you have the resources to back your claims up or else keep your trap shut. I might ship Clark/Lois, but I can definitely understand and see the other side that the Chlarker's/Chloisers have pointed out over the seasons as well. You guys do have a right to be angry and bitter. You guys do have a right to rant and you guys do have a right to spy sometimes, but at the same time the Cloisers as far as Shelly and her little band of hencmen go, needs to take a step back and just stop being so damn ridiculous.

As far as all of her friends, don't understimate a couple of them - I might already have them in my back pocket - so to speak. lol. I've been making connections with people, sending pm's, and posting the link(s) around as much as I can and trying to get the word out. And, I will continue to do that, so that you guys will know that not all of us Cloisers are crazies.

[kissme-myfool.livejournal.com]

Thanks for that post, I am going to post it on my journal under no filters. I've lost a few great friends over the Chloe/Lois divide, clearing up this kind of things can only help.

Also, so much word on everyone allowed to have their own opinion! I'm allowed to not like what I'm seeing and say so to whomever I want.

♥

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

Thank you, for posting this on your journal and helping to spread the word. I keep updating the post with various things, that I keep finding out because I think it's important that we keep up with these things. I want to make sure that the Clark/Lois fans in my corner of the world, know the difference between right and wrong, and what inklane has done has been wrong from the very beginning.

I also want Chloe, Chlarker's/Chloisers to know that not all of the Clark/Lois fans are crazy, either. There are some pretty awesome people in my camp. lol. Though, you wouldn't know it for the crazies. I understand what you mean about losing friends. I never understood why you it had to be either or with regards to Chloe and Lois, why you couldn't like them both for different reasons the way that I do.

You're definitely right about that. :)

You're definitely allowed to say that you hate Lois and wish that she would DIAF all you want and nobody has the right to tell you that you don't or make you feel umcomfortable for stating your opinion. lol. People have the right to disagree or not like it, but that's about all the right they have.

Btw, you seem like one of the sanest Chloe fans I've met in a while, care to friend me as long as you don't bawl me out for being frustrated with what SV and the writer's have done to poor Chloe over the last two seasons?! lol. I have Chloe friends on my flist and we manage to get along just fine, even when we disagree. :)

[nyonyo.livejournal.com]

...well, I started calling us the Chloe mafia as a joke YEARS ago. I thought mojotastic and I were the only ones who called us that. Out of love. *g* Have people taken to saying it seriously...?

[mojotastic.livejournal.com]

Chloe Mafia 4 lyfe! Haha! It's so sad that I've had this AM hardcore gansta icon for YEARS. Everytime I think of deleting it SV fandom does something else hilarious and I'm like OH WELL STILL RELEVANT.

I think the term Chloe Mafia actually came from a wank a long, LONG time ago when someone accused Allison Mack of hating the poor or being racist. Or being racist while hating the poor? I didn't think Chloe Mafia was a thing though with people other than us.

[nyonyo.livejournal.com]

SHE'LL KILL YOUR FUCKING DOG FOR FUN SO DON'T PUSH HER, LOL.

Oh, I know it started during the hate-the-poor wank for sure, because I made the Chloe mafia icon with the post of icons that said AM canceled Firefly. I just thought I was the one who made it up because I thought it was totally awesome, but maybe I'm remembering it wrong. :P

[http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/]

rotfl. Yep, they've actually taken it pretty seriously in the Clois camp, which I thought was kinda cracked out. It always amused me, how dumb some people can be. lol.