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See, [livejournal.com profile] inklane, here's the thing.

When I made my last post about this issue, I didn't ask you to publicly own up to stalking my journal and ripping me off. I didn't ask you to apologize. I didn't leave bitchy comments on your journal. I don't think I was particularly nasty or unreasonable.

I just asked you to do one thing:

STOP.

Is that so hard?

Apparently!



In the previous installment of this increasingly stupid story, [livejournal.com profile] shelly505 was stalking my journal like a creeper, copypasting from my LJ and ripping me off in various ways, and I called her out with screencaps and asked her to quit it.

About 24 hours after I posted caps of all the crap she was pulling, she deleted her LJ, her graphics journal, her twitter, and supposedly her YouTube account (the last I didn't even know existed until someone mentioned it later). She made no other public response to my post that I'm aware of.

After she deleted her LJ, someone edited the interests list on her community, [livejournal.com profile] clois_daily, to remove the ones that were copypasted from my own comm.

On Journalfen's wank_report I saw after the fact, someone posted a link where other Lois fans claimed that Chloe fans ran [livejournal.com profile] shelly505 off LJ. Supposedly the entire Chloe mafia came up with a plot under f-lock to force her to delete her journal, just because [livejournal.com profile] clois_daily was *~totally absolutely completely coincidentally~* vaguely similar to some unnamed Chloe community. (Yet nobody referred to my journal or comm by name, or linked my crazy, delusional post with all the screencaps and dates showing how it was about more than just one isolated instance of copying. Huh!)

Except, ngl, I was refreshing [livejournal.com profile] shelly505's journal like crazy from about five minutes after I made my post. I wanted to see if she took down the stuff she copied, or apologized (admittedly unlikely), or flounced, or whatever, and so was basically at the computer with popcorn hitting refresh until she bahleeted.

Yet I didn't see anyone commenting on her most recent public posts at all. I guess someone could have been doing it on older posts, or I missed it... But still, where are the caps of all this harassment from the Chloe mafia, with their nefarious plans to throw her off the internets? Because it sure wasn't me, and it wasn't my flist, as I asked them in advance to not take this outside my journal publicly.

I saw two people (who weren't on my flist) call her out on twitter as a plagiarizing bitch. Yeah, not polite, but...less than 400 characters of "harassment" was enough to send her fleeing the internets? Really?

Anyway.

I didn't push the issue, because she had deleted her journal, and why stir up shit if it was over anyway. Right? Right!

Except I wouldn't be making this post if it was actually over.






On October 27th, the former [livejournal.com profile] shelly505 created the account [livejournal.com profile] inklane. Since she went right back to modding [livejournal.com profile] clois_daily and was still using the same default icon as before, I didn't have to be much of a plucky girl detective to notice she was still around. She put up a public post labeling her new journal as friends-only, saying it was "to stop trolling."

Yes, we get it. You're the victim here. Wah.





But, hey, her new journal was no longer creepily copypasting from my interests or keywords anymore. If she was starting over fresh, cool.

But...

I guess she realized now she could carry on ripping off my posts under friendslock in her new journal. Then she could keep doing what she was doing, and I would never be the wiser.

Except you still fail, [livejournal.com profile] inklane.






For starters, in the last month she's started to post picspams publicly, so we still have more of the same at [livejournal.com profile] fandom_picspams...





But her SV posts remain locked. How strange. I wonder why?

Rather hilariously, she posted one SV picspam publicly to [livejournal.com profile] fandom_picspams last month, and I coincidentally posted one of my own like five minutes after hers, so we had our posts back-to-back looking humorously identical next to each other on the comm. She deleted her post immediately. And no, I don't have caps, more's the pity; I was on a crappy connection at the time and she deleted too quickly for me to get to it.

But anyway, you can still see some of her picspam material in her scrapbook, which has remained public. This one's my favorite:





I changed my picspam style a bit after she started copying me last time, and since the previous post, she began copying that too. I am aware this is not the end of the world, but seriously CAN YOU DIAL BACK THE CREEPINESS JUST A SKOSH?

And for everyone's who's like, "well there are only so many ways to picspam an episode," please go browse through [livejournal.com profile] fandom_picspams and find someone else whose posts look so slavishly identical to mine. I'll wait.

Then we get to her comm banner...





And of course, the icons she's uploaded over the past few months to the new journal. She stopped the creepy keyword copypasting, but decided to go for the gold on creepiness in copying more of my icons instead:





And this is obviously just the stuff posted publicly since the last kerfluffle; who knows what could be going on under f-lock.

Seriously?

It's freaking manips and picspams and icons. Not just that, but manips and picspams and icons from freaking Smallville, a show that only has two collective brain cells to rub together on a good day.

Obviously these things are not srs bzness. Kind of the polar opposite of srs bzness, actually. But none of those things are hard to do yourself without obnoxiously copying off someone else either, as the rest of Livejournal seems to survive without obsessively watching my journal and graphics posts to replicate my stuff.

Honestly, it's now at the point where I'm less pissed off at the shameless copying of non-srs-bzness things than I am just marveling at how stupid you're being if you're actually attempting to hide it (as opposed to this being a *~social experiment~*).

I mean...you got caught copying, deleted your accounts to cover your tracks, apparently told your friends you deleted because Chloe fans were being mean girls to you, and then made a whole new journal to keep on trucking, doing exactly what you were before?

People who aren't even on my flist have PM'ed me asking if I'm aware of your new journal and that you've continued to rip me off, so you're not exactly being covert here. Not to mention how you still continue to post in [livejournal.com profile] fandom_picspams even now with picspams that look like mine. I'm really still baffled as to whether you think I'm dumb enough not to notice you just because you changed journals, or if you're doing this expressly to get my blood pressure up.

You obviously are totally aware that what you're doing is not cool, because your picspam posts for other fandoms are public, while you keep just your SV ones locked (plus bahleeting the one public SV post that looked just like mine last month).

And you can hardly say that you're not still checking my journals, because you've continued to keep icons I've recently posted uploaded to your userpics credited to both this LJ and [livejournal.com profile] yumeiro.

And you clearly saw my first post calling you out where I said I was pissed off at what you were doing, so you no longer have a leg to stand on with any possible *~but omg I love your stuff so much and imitation is just a form of flattery~* excuses that might have flown before, if you'd apologized back then.

So I almost feel like it has to be trolling, except you're still making vague efforts to hide what you're doing, and I just cannot figure out what you're after.

I'd obviously (still!) appreciate it if you quit doing this, though considering now you've been steadily ripping me off for almost half a year now, and most people probably would have cut their losses after the first journal deletion, I'm not holding my breath. But hey, it would be nice, as every time I post something publicly to my journal now, I have to ask myself if it's something I'm willing to see you shamelessly rip off. It's not srs bzness, no, but it is not exactly making fandom the fun stress-reliever it should be, either.

I'm posting this publicly, the same way I did before, because I still think you're watching my journal. I'm doing it so I'm continuing to keep everything out in the open.

You know, as opposed to being a mean, mean Chloe fan who plots under f-lock against you and trolls your journal. I know you've had a tough time through this whole ordeal, being victimized the way you have. :(




And if this somehow all ends up on f_w, I...probably totally deserve it for posting over what is (this time) essentially mostly icon wank. So, if it happens, I just hope whoever does the report is funny, as I don't need any more recipes right now.

P.S. While egostroking from others did not go entirely unappreciated last time, I'm really not posting this so that everyone I know (and some I don't) in SV fandom feels pressured to tell me how *~awesome and original~* I am in the comments. I would rather have [livejournal.com profile] inklane stop being a creeper and leave me in peace than get attention, srsly.

If you want to weigh in, cool, but no pressure here to tell me how much you love and adore me for my amazing 100x100 pixel *~ARTISTIC CREATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SULLIED HERE~*.

Date: 2010-02-01 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apeygirl.livejournal.com
I would love to see that upcoming picspam go_clo. Mind if I friend you?

Nyonyo, it goes without saying that I love your style and your way of expressing yourself (it pissed me off even more when she had the gall to even copy your picspam commentary style). This is getting old and that girl (or woman posing as a teen, from what I hear) needs to quit this.

It really sucks that nobody in her camp is acknowledging this as bad behavior. If she did this to one of her fellow Cloisers, she'd be called out by them. Does this mean her friends think it's okay to steal, as long as it's from a Chlarker?

This reflects badly, not only on her, but on all of her friends for defending her and trying to justify this rather than put the proper face on what she's doing.

Any Cloisers reading this? I wish you'd tell your little friend to stop (and it wouldn't hurt to apologize and acknowledge what she's done rather than continue to play victim). This makes all of you look bad.

Date: 2010-02-01 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] go-clo.livejournal.com
Don't mind at all! ;)

That's what really pisses me off, not only is she doing this but she is getting away with it! She acts like shes the victim and has all her friends defending her! She gives the Clois fanbase a really bad name and the Clois fans condoning this do too. I don't want to blame all Clois fans of being thieves but if they seriously think this isn't wrong, then they are just as bad as her. Their motivation is what is keeping her going to do this! If a fellow Chlarker did this to a Cloiser, I would be really ashamed!

Date: 2010-02-01 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyonyo.livejournal.com
I'm not sure how many people in her camp know what's going on. Her fellow mods must know at least, because someone besides her changed her comm's interest list after she'd deleted her first journal. But honestly, I'm not sure what to think. Considering the ridiculous level of bad blood between the two camps I wouldn't be all that shocked if people knew and just didn't care, since it was a Chloe fan's problem, or they don't know because it's just so much more fun to believe the Chloe mafia would use their unparalleled influence over the internets to cruelly "force" someone to delete their LJ.

And lol, I doubt anyone's *~patrolling~* my journal except her, to steal more crap.

Date: 2010-02-19 12:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
Just want you to know that I'm working on making sure that the Clark/Lois camp know exactly what she's doing. She just talked about me openly on her Twitter which is public and bad mouthed me, I've got it well documented in a post on my journal where our mutual friend [livejournal.com profile] mojotastic urged me to repost these links so that the Clark/Lois fans on my flist would know what she's like and what she gets up to.

Date: 2010-02-19 12:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyonyo.livejournal.com
Thanks a lot for that. I didn't want to make a big wanky deal posting up a storm about it since tensions run high between the Chloe and Lois camps, but I hate that nobody knows what she's up to when it's been going on for like half a year now.

Date: 2010-02-19 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
You're welcome, no problem at all. She's managed to piss the wrong damn person off now, since I'm a Clark/Lois fan (have no problem with Chloe, except the way SV has handled her these last two seasons for which I could throttle them for) I am definitely going to let that side of the fandom camp know what's up.

Hold on, give me a minute and I'll un-lock my most recent post so that you can see exactly what she did to me, because it was just disgusting. Maybe you could help pass the word around for anyone else you might know who could possibly have a Clois fan on their flist and not even realize it. All help would be appreciated, because she should NOT be allowed to get way with this crap.

Wherein the evidence shows just how tacky one indivudal can be. (http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/638517.html) The post has been made public now and you can see.

I hate that the tension runs high between the Chloe and Lois camps, it's like why can't you like both? In this fandom it's either you like one or you like the other, I like them both for very different reasons. I wish I could get back to you with what else she has said, but she's de-friended me now too over this mess.

I just wanted you to know there's at least one sane Clark/Lois and Lois fangirl out there. ;)

Date: 2010-02-19 01:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] excelaunt.livejournal.com
I visited your journal to read the post you opened on this issue, I hope you don't mind, but I marvel at your brave heart. I'm glad to read that many in your flist are supporting you and wanted to express the same sentiment. I just thought it might be better to do it here.

Date: 2010-02-19 01:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
Thank you, I really do appreciate that a lot. I'm just tired of some Clark/Lois fans making it seem like "all of us" are rabid and crazy, as that particular ep was this season. lol. I just couldn't believe that she had done that to me, but then my friend gave me the links to these two posts and well my eyes were seriously opened wide. So, I would appreciate any help I could get passing the link to my post along, to help open other's eyes about her and to warn fandom and make sure Clark/Lois fans know that she's out there being crazy and giving us a bad name.

Once again, thank you for your support, as I really do appreciate. :)

Date: 2010-02-19 01:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] excelaunt.livejournal.com
No problem, you're a beautiful person to be as graceful as you are to put everyday decency first.

Date: 2010-02-19 01:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
Thank you, for saying that. *g* I'm not saying I've not done the stupid on occassion, but there's a big difference between this and just making a mistake that you learn a lesson from. I just want fandom to know we can be better than this and we should be, and to warn them against crazies like her.

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Date: 2010-02-19 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyonyo.livejournal.com
Well, my flist is pretty much the Chloe mafia, lol. I'm sure everyone in the *~mafia family~* will be hearing about this, but the whole Chloe mafia already knows what she's like, and talked about it when I made my original post. And there's not much overlap between the camps, since Clark/Lois fans didn't seem to know about what really happened.

Yeah, I saw some of that on her twitter the other day and thought it was less than classy, I just didn't know who she was talking about. Sorry you had to deal with it.

Nah, it's cool. Since most people on her flist clearly don't know what she's pulling, I don't really care that much about what she says under f-lock. I know whatever she's said to people about this issue is a story painting her as the victim, since I've seen other Lois fans using her journal deletion as an example of the constant abuse the Chloe mafia unleashes on people. :P

And yeah, I second what [livejournal.com profile] excelaunt said. Thanks a lot for bringing attention to it since it's kind of rare for Chloe or Lois fans deep into this fandom to step across the aisle. :) It's really appreciated.

Date: 2010-02-19 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
I figured that your f-list was pretty much Chloe-centric, but sometimes there are people on our f-list who like both characters. It's pretty much a rare thing these days, but you never know it could happen. Haha, I asked [livejournal.com profile] mojotastic the other night if I could join the mafia as an honorary member and she said, sure. lolz. So, I'm totally on your side in all of this craziness.

I wanted to make it a point to make sure the Clark/Lois fans who don't already know her or have been introduced to her, knows who she is, what she's done, the kind of crap that she's willing to pull, and the kind of person she is as far as fandom goes. That's pretty much important, I don't care if she talks about me all day long everyday for the rest of her life. All I care about, is making sure that people know her for the real person she is...an idiot plan and simple making problems in fandom where there really shouldnn't be.

It's okay, better me than someone else because I fear that whoever that might have been, wouldn't have the guts to do what I'm doing and call her out for the hypocrite lying two-faced person she really is.

No, they really don't. I'm almost tempted to go look at her f-list and see how many mutual friends we have and then just conviently pm them a link to my journal post from today. lol. And, maybe the other Clark/Lois fans that she has friended as well just to see what they have to say and so that they can make an informed opinion of her. It's really necessary, after what she's pulled.

I hate people who bring an issue like this on themselves and then they turn around and cry wolf later, when the Chloe side of fandom has done nothing at all hateful towards her and she's the one who's done the damage. Ugh, I hope you know that when I saw other fellow Clois fans using that as an example to villify the Chloe fans, it really did enrage. I don't play that kind of game, it's ridiculous and childish.

You're more than welcome, I don't mind doing it at all. That idiot tango'ed with the wrong Clois fan. She's really pissed me off, as a fan of both Lois and Chloe, I can say whatever I want about her and be in the right to defend myself from the backlash should it happen. You're more than welcome. :)

Date: 2010-02-19 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wwg23.livejournal.com
As a member of the Chloe mafia I thank you for clearing the air about this issue. :)

Date: 2010-02-19 04:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
You're more than welcome, she's an idiot who pissed me off and she's about to be schooled. I've already been sending out massive pm's to every mutual Clark/Lois fan/friend that we have and then some that we don't, letting them know about this.

Date: 2010-02-19 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marikology.livejournal.com
I hate people who bring an issue like this on themselves and then they turn around and cry wolf later, when the Chloe side of fandom has done nothing at all hateful towards her and she's the one who's done the damage

This. THIS. A thousand times this. I appreciate you pointing this out SO MUCH.

I don't mind being called the Chloe Mafia. I don't care if people rag on Chloe. I admit to ragging on C/Lois. You can even rag on Chlarkers, but if you do it in private would be nice. Yes, Chlarkers have spied at DI. Yes Chlarkers have posted rants against Durance or C/Lois. Yes, Chlarkers are bitter and angry. Call people out on things they actually have done.

But what baffles me, are the urban legends certain Cloisers seemingly live to perpetuate, accusing Chlarkers/Chloisers with baseless claims for which they have ABSOLUTELY NO evidence. I'm sure the majority of the Clois community is as sane as you, but Shelly505/Inklane and her friends are a lost cause. They will believe what they want to believe, with absolutely no evidence.


Date: 2010-02-19 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
You are more than welcome, I just feel like it's time that someone set the record straight. In this fandom, especially with how brutal it's become over the years, no camp is innocent in the things that they've done to one another. This crap comes at you from every direction, but I wanted to make sure you guys knew that at least one Clois/Lois fan was sane in the bunch and knew that Shelly (which, is her real name btw) is an idiot with no leg to stand on.

THIS. Is pretty much how I feel. If you're going to call someone out for doing something, you better make sure that you have the resources to back your claims up or else keep your trap shut. I might ship Clark/Lois, but I can definitely understand and see the other side that the Chlarker's/Chloisers have pointed out over the seasons as well. You guys do have a right to be angry and bitter. You guys do have a right to rant and you guys do have a right to spy sometimes, but at the same time the Cloisers as far as Shelly and her little band of hencmen go, needs to take a step back and just stop being so damn ridiculous.

As far as all of her friends, don't understimate a couple of them - I might already have them in my back pocket - so to speak. lol. I've been making connections with people, sending pm's, and posting the link(s) around as much as I can and trying to get the word out. And, I will continue to do that, so that you guys will know that not all of us Cloisers are crazies.

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Date: 2010-02-19 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nyonyo.livejournal.com
...well, I started calling us the Chloe mafia as a joke YEARS ago. I thought [livejournal.com profile] mojotastic and I were the only ones who called us that. Out of love. *g* Have people taken to saying it seriously...?

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Date: 2010-02-19 06:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indefiance.livejournal.com
I'm glad you posted this and am really glad you called her out because she has definitely been a bully, despite her claims of innocence and "WAH! I AM A LAMB!" We never once bullied her, except for maybe two people calling her a plagarizer (not nicely) on Twitter. Ever since then, it's been the Chloe mafia who have run her off the internets (she didn't--she changed her name and looks like she's locked everything again.)

*HUGS* I'm really sorry she's been a nasty friend to you. I really hate when people pretend to be so nice or are your friends, but then try to pit others against you. I have quite a few Clark/Lois fans on my flist and am sad that both camps have such a vicious image of one another simply because of a few crazy fans like Shelly.

Though, welcome to the Chloe Mafia. :3

Date: 2010-02-19 06:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
I'm actually pretty glad that I had the guts enough to go through with posting this, myself. Not once in my life have I ever backed down from saying what I think or expressing a through or opinion before, so why should I stop now?

From my time of being acquainted with her through Twitter and livejournal, I have noticed that she was pretty much a bully and most of the drama that she squealed about like a stuck pig, was pretty much brought on by herself.

I couldn't stand it, that she was acting like the Chloe/Chlarker's/Chloisers were some big bad meanies, who came charging through her door, and knocked her poor little Clark/Lois lovin' heart down and stamped all over it. Like she hadn't incited them, gotten them all riled up with her ridiculous behavior, and to top it all off the icing on the cake that pissed me off the most - she has actually made the Clark/Lois fans in the sane Clois Camp look absolutely damn crazy and there's got to be a stop put to it.

You're exactly right, she didn't stop at all. She deleted both of her old accounts and then created new ones, which she kept locked. There was no Chloe Mafia that ran her off, there were just two people who I saw on Twitter that told her in no terms politely at all, to just stop plagerizing people. And, if my grandfather hadn't been so busy dying at the time and me trying to run around and help my grandmother to help keep him comfortable until he went, then I would have told her that in a not so polite way myself. That's just rude and it's not acceptable.

*hugs back* Thank you, so much for the support. I really do appreciate it, a lot. It just bothers me, that she would use me like that, treat me like that, and then try to make herself look like the victim. I hate that I feel like our mutual friends are also going to be torn between, which one they should side with and I've been busy talking to them non-stop tonight and assuring them that I'm not going to make them choose and I'm not handing out an ultimatum. Most of them have been amazing and have been supportive of me, except for one.

I wish that the Chloe/Chlark/Chloisers and the Cloisers could be a little more civil with one another and we could all co-exist and try to get along, even if we do disagree on a lot of various things. There's no reason why we shouldn't be able to. I would love to have more Chloe fans on my flist, because I like the character and I totally ship her with Ollie. I shipped her with Jimmy and with Pete and I loved her friendship with Clark and her friendship with Lana. Crap, that girl is just as awesome as AM makes her. lol.

Hahaha, thank you. When do I get my tattoo?! lol. ;)

p.s. Mind friending, since you seem like a very nice person I could totally get along with.

Date: 2010-02-19 07:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] indefiance.livejournal.com
I feel like she is exactly the type that brings on the drama and then cries about it to gain sympathy from others. During the whole virus thing, she kept claiming how she was so young and how us Chlarkers were just bullying her and trolling her journal. Ironic that she was trolling [livejournal.com profile] nyonyo's journal to a ridiculous extent.

I would love to friend you. We do have several shows in common, including Smallville. I don't talk about Smallville or Chlarker/Chlois things a lot. I mostly post episode reviews, fics, and/or picspams (I'm hoping to post a Chlo-Lo picspam soon, actually...) Plus, I definitely know the difference between disliking a fictional character and bashing fans who are real people. :)

I hope you get through it okay. I read your post and it didn't seem like you were asking people to choose at all. You were just defending yourself and setting the facts straight, which you should have. Especially when she could have caused you to lose friends if you hadn't stood up for yourself.

Date: 2010-02-19 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
She does, believe me you don't even know the half of it. You should see the way that she carries on over at DI, which I'm sure she'll be watching me like a hawk over there. Now, that's just absolutely ridiculous. I have never once, in all of the time I've had her friended, seen one Chlarker/Chloiser troll her damn journal. I don't know about in the past, but I'm probably guessing not. She's not a victim, she's the instigator.

That's fantastic, I've already friended. Now, don't get mad at me if I kinda bitch about the way Smallville treats Chloe for time to time or she does something I think is a bit questionable, lol. I try to be nice a lot of the time in my picspam reviews, when I get around to doing them. They take me days to actually put together because I like to be thorough. lol.

I don't talk a lot about Smallville either, but I do like to fangirl about Clark/Lois and Lois from time to time. And, believe it or not I really love Chlo-Lo and wish were getting a little bit more of it, because I miss it when Lo first showed up. So, I'm kind of interesting in seeing that picspam and also checking out some of your fics and/or other picspams.

Oh yes, there is a big difference between hating a fictional character and the person who plays them. It's stupid how some people act, but we can't control everyone. Wish we had repelant for them, though. lol. That might be nice. ;)

Thank you, once again for the support. I really do appreciate it a lot. It helps that you guys are nice enough to hear my side out and aren't questioning whether or not I'm being genuine, since I'm a Clark/Lois fan. Most of our mutual friends have actually been quite supportive as well, except for one of them. There's maybe one more that I'm a little sketchy about, but other than that it's been pretty good.

Date: 2010-02-20 12:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com

I couldn't stand it, that she was acting like the Chloe/Chlarker's/Chloisers were some big bad meanies, who came charging through her door, and knocked her poor little Clark/Lois lovin' heart down and stamped all over it. Like she hadn't incited them, gotten them all riled up with her ridiculous behavior


Sorry to butt in on the discussion, but that's exactly it. With the wank over the virus, she had a post accusing Chlark fans of sending a virus to a Cloiser chat, and one Chlark fan commented to that entry (more that politely) asking if she had any proof of this. She was the one throwing accusations at other fans in that entry, in a rant which included abusive language aimed at us, so why be surprised when people find that unlocked entry of talking about other fans. And yet, in response to that one polite comment (and I'm pretty sure people take screecaps of the entry which will show how polite the comment was) she flew off the handle and had another post about Chlark fans now trolling her journal and she cannot take any more of this fandom. And murmurings of f-w started up, and she immediately had a new entry about how upsetting this mean fandom is for her as a 16 year old, and people thought then that she was only making out she was 16 to avoid f-w (which has under 18 age rules).

It's frustrating because, much like nyonyo being plagiarized is spoken off as Chloe fans bullying and overreacting to shelly because she had a comm with one or two coincidentally similar challenges (when it was clearly more than that), that's another thing that is still talked about today with the belief that Chloe fans send them a virus. From what people were saying, it wasn't even a real virus. It was one of those rick roll type things where heaps of programes open up on your comp at the same time and you need to restart. And literally anyone could have send that to an open chat, places like yahoo and AIM chat are rife with viruses, but still people end up believing what Shelly says on that, and it is frequently still spoken off today as fandom sending viruses to one another. Even when there is not one shred of truth to that other than the entry with shelly ranting and pointing fingers. And bringing Craig into it to say that he supported her claims, when he did no such thing

Date: 2010-02-20 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_touched/
No, don't worry about it. Feel free to weigh in all you want, because it's such an eye-opener for me to be finding out the extent of all the drama that she's caused and to know the root of the backlash and why the Chloe/Chlark/Chloiser fans feel the way that they do. I'm just looking at this, shaking my head, and seriously going ... W.O.W.

I wonder, does anyone know if she deleted that post or if anyone else might have screencaps of the original post itself and not just of the comments exchanged between her and Craig, because if I could get my hands on those I would be more than happy to edit it into my post.

Okay, wait a minute. You guys keep telling me that she's been complaining about Chlark fans trolling her journal, but in the span of time that I had her friended I have never once seen a Chlark/Chloe/Chlois fan EVER troll her journal, which is what has me literally shaking my head in astonishment over the fact that she's once again playing victim when she's the one who in fact, started the whole damn drama to begin with. It's rather disgusting to know that a fellow Clois fan is capable of that sort of behavior and it makes me want to apologize on our camps behalf, even though myself and the other sane Clois fans haven't really done anything wrong.

[livejournal.com profile] clois_daily was definitely patterned after [livejournal.com profile] up_away and there's just no denying that, even down to the first couple of challenges that it offered.

Ugh, I can't ... this is digusting. I'm just put away, really.

Date: 2010-02-20 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] frelling-tralk.livejournal.com
Okay, wait a minute. You guys keep telling me that she's been complaining about Chlark fans trolling her journal, but in the span of time that I had her friended I have never once seen a Chlark/Chloe/Chlois fan EVER troll her journa

:nods: People have been saying that Chlark fans as a group have driven several Clois fans into hiding and locking their LJ's because of trolling them (when Shelly is all I can think of that applies too). And then all that happened was that Nyonyo had the entry in her own LJ calling her our and asking Shelly to stop copying her, and so Shelly went more undercover (and continued ripying off Nyonyo in a deliberate way, right down to organising her icons the exact same way). She is the one baiting other fans, and so it was frustrating when that turned into Shelly making out that Chlark and Chlois fans were the bad guys hounding her for simple misunderstandings over a comm
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Date: 2010-02-20 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marikology.livejournal.com
Apeygirl has a screengrab of the entire post of hers telling us to Fuck off because we spread viruses.

In that post, I politely asked for proof and she told me, "I don't have any, but DI says so and Craig said he saw Chlarkers admitting it on people's Livejournals," which I knew was a lie, and he set her straight at my request.

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